女主持人：Brain and how the brain reacts to food and how companies work with the human brand have it reactive food what would your policy be or you know any any other reactions to doctor nestles our comments
前FDA专员David Caessler博士：First of all I think the problem is worse than we think the more I studied the effects of obesity the real metabolic chaos that get into in our bodies. I am struck. There are diseases that are not even listed on the CDC website but I think we're associated with obesity and yet I think the answer I think if we're honest is we have no solution. We are clueless as far as what interventions work. Right, I am not sure I know what to eat I'm gonna. I walk, I walk into an airport and I see it theres nothing if I'm, you know, if I'm hungry I can eat and I think we have failed in giving nutritional advice to people. If diet and exercise with the answer, we'd all do it and there wouldn't be a problem. It doesn't work in the long run. I can talk for hours on what's stimulating us what got us into this problem over the last several years, but I would go back to the basics. We spend literally billions of dollars through out many different departments. I would go back to the very basics I set up a national Institute in the national institutes of health and you know we do try to avoid setting up new institutes. I think it's time to set up a national Institute for nutritional sciences. I would try to get answers to very basic questions is a calorie a calorie can I eat unprocessed meat. What's the basis of insulin resistance and diabetes? What's going on with my brain? I think we have failed. I'll be American public when it comes to giving them basic information.
女主持人：When you say we you mean the government do? You mean the media do? you mean the food is a science do? You mean the food industry food in the fridge？ You mean corporations that create food? You mean all ?
前FDA专员David Caessler博士：I think we've created foods I think we began processing foods in the nineteen twentys, nineteen thirties in order to feed a hungry nation to be able to shipshort foods longer distance safer foods in some way food born illness reduced costs and I think no one has a clue the effect of processing on human physiology. Something has driven the all of us to get bigger and bigger and will leading the world and were exporting it and it's coming from what we eat and we don't fully understand it.
公共卫生教授Marion Nestle： We have to fully understand it I mean we know that the United States agricultural system produces about twice the number of caloriescapital that the country needs and those calories have to be sold and that people started eating more in starting in about nineteen eighty people started eating more calories and the number of calories consumed increased per capita by somewhere between three hundred and five hundred calories a day and people gained weight not complicatedsome of that came from larger portions and some of it came from food marketing and just pushing food absolutely everywhere if you eat more you're going to gain weight I think we know what healthy diets aretheir diets that contain a lot of fruits and vegetables balanced calories and don't contain a lot of junk food.
公共卫生教授Marion Nestle：We don't do it because we're being marketed to to the tune of billions and billions of dollars a year in every possible way and in every way that you described in your bugs about the way that that marketing reaches us in ways that were not punch yourself so we're not even aware of the way we're being encouraged to eat more all of the time.